Family walk to Two Lads via Hole Bottom where we met Mal and his dogs

       

Map of route

http://www.mapmyrun.com/routes/view/64521450

Evie and my mum walking up the road – it was very busy today !

lots of frost on grass today !

I am not running today

Winter Hill mast

we met up with Mal and played with His dogs !

I loved playing with the dogs so did Evie

hole bottom it had a lot of frost on the slopes

I love the ice

Mal walking off with his dogs !
great site
http://justramblingon.co.uk/

me and Evie on the ice
note from Dad: some of these pools are deep , this one isnt Jake is showing Evie how to cross this

more ice today

Me and Evie running across the ice having fun !

walking up to the two lads

lots of people on the two lads today

me on the two lads windy and cold today !
we met some other children and spent some time playing with them on the two lads and walked down to Hole Bottom.

Christmas Eve -Cinema trip and Adam Hill to Holders to Hole Bottom to Two lads on Winter Hill

Leo is in his push chair – we take this to school every day as its good in all weathers including the snow 🙂

I am pushing the Pushchair today

This is Middlebrook we are going to the cinema to see TinTin
http://www.middlebrook-bolton.co.uk/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Adventures_of_Tintin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tintin

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0983193/

we ate out at Mcdonalds as a special treat !
I have lost my front two upper teeth !
http://www.mcdonalds.co.uk/

In the Afternoon I went on a run – Adam Hill to Holders Plantation to Hole Bottom to Two Lads – fast run

http://www.mapmyrun.com/routes/view/61627478

 

Looking towards the Welsh mountains and Liverpool

Two Lads

http://www.about-rivington.co.uk/acatalog/Two_Lads_Cairns.html
http://justramblingon.co.uk/history-pages/two-lads-hill/

The mast

these are large stones

Bell pit just below Adam Hill

The masts and a lone cyclist

My dad fell on down into this ! it normally me but you have to be careful

Holders Farm
http://jakeofwinterhill.blogspot.com/2010/10/explore-ruined-farmhouse-at-holders.html
http://jakeofwinterhill.blogspot.com/2011/06/adam-hill-to-holders-plantation-to-two.html
https://jakeofwinterhill.wordpress.com/2011/06/18/adam-hill-to-holders-plantation-to-two-lads-winter-hill-horwich/

A lone walker just above Holders plantation

this is much more fun that it looks !

the old dam wall at Holders plantation

Hole Bottom Brick and Tile works in the day ! no snow !
http://jakeofwinterhill.blogspot.com/2011/12/sledging-at-two-lads-and-hole-bottom-on.html
http://www.chorleyhistorysociety.co.uk/page01b.htm
http://justramblingon.co.uk/country-walks/west-pennine-moors/walking-the-dean-ditch/

My dads trainer and tracksuit covered in mud as usual ! this is clinker from burning coal

some of old stone slabs in Hole bottom

Looking down from two Lads

the pike

Two lads

the mast from the two lads

racing down from the two lads

trying to find a dry route

Nearly back (two lads and mast )

4.85 mph today better in the day , no snow  or  rain or fog !

Sledging at Two Lads and Hole Bottom on Winter Hill

we parked at the top car park there was a lot of snow

Note from Dad: Cold weather tyres allow us to get here safely
http://www.goodyear.eu/uk_en/tire-advice/cold-weather/index.jsp

route taken
http://www.mapmyrun.com/routes/view/60974234

 

Me and my sledge

I have to keep my eyes shut to keep the night vision

sledging at Two lads

on top of two lads

Sledging at Hole bottom

http://www.youtube.com/get_player

My dad Sledging 🙂

Safety :
Black ice on the roads , – 1 to -3 with a small wind chill felt like -5

“Although Winter Hill is a wonderful “playground” and a place of great
beauty and fascination for many of us, we should always be aware of the
hidden dangers at all times, and do all we can to minimise them.
Unfortunately, many of us like the bleakness and solitude of the place,
and often go wandering around on our own – and at times when there is
perhaps nobody else around on the moors – and in the most appalling
weather conditions! Some would call us foolhardy, but this is our choice
and what we choose to do – and we would defend our right to do just this
– so long as we are all aware of the possible dangers and we dress and
equip ourselves to minimise the risks.
In poor weather never underestimate Winter Hill. The bogs really ARE
there. The visibility really CAN vanish totally within 60 seconds. The
body surface temperature plus the chill factor for those unsuitably
dressed, really CAN drop to –10C or more on top of the Hill.
DO take care on Winter Hill ….. but enjoy it! Remember. It CAN bite”

Click to access whvol2.pdf

P48

Jake had multi layers on tonight to allow him to safely enjoy the snow ,
do enjoy but take care ,

http://www.mountain.rescue.org.uk/mountain-advice/mobile-phones
http://www.bowlandpenninemrt.org.uk/safety.htm?

Two Lads to Hole Bottom with Sharon , meeting with Mal and Italian evening !

Today we met up with Sharon who came with us on walk to the Two Lads to Hole Bottom with Leo,
We met Mal  Frith  with his three dogs ,Brett ,Sam and Molly at Hole Bottom by Chance

http://justramblingon.co.uk/
https://plus.google.com/u/0/115067517513197991613/posts

http://justramblingon.co.uk/featured-post/diary-2011-week-48/ photo of me and Mals trip on Winter Hill with Brett,Sam and Molly
our route

http://www.mapmyrun.com/routes/view/60456438

This is Sharon , Sharon came to our house ,

It was muddy after all the rain and hail

Rivington Pike ,Sharon had not been here before So I told her what everything was called  we are standing by the two lads
http://jakeofwinterhill.blogspot.com/search/label/Two%20lads
http://justramblingon.co.uk/history-pages/two-lads-hill/
http://jakeofwinterhill.blogspot.com/2011/04/two-lads-to-rivington-pike-and-back.html

Rivington Pike links
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rivington_Pike
http://www.about-rivington.co.uk/acatalog/Rivington_Pike.html

Two Lads links
http://www.about-rivington.co.uk/acatalog/Two_Lads_Cairns.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Pennine_Moors
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_Hill_(North_West_England)
http://www.daveweb.co.uk/whvol2.pdf

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_Hill_(North_West_England)

Winter Hill Mast
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_Hill_(North_West_England)
http://justramblingon.co.uk/tag/winter-hill/
http://www.d.lane.btinternet.co.uk/winterhillthebook.htm
http://jakeofwinterhill.blogspot.com/search/label/winter%20hill

Me with Brett ,This is Mal !

This is Sam and You can just see Molly!

Hole Bottom
https://jakeofwinterhill.wordpress.com/2011/10/08/hole-bottom-tramway-on-winter-hill-in-poor-weather/


http://justramblingon.co.uk/country-walks/west-pennine-moors/walking-the-dean-ditch/

based on Dave lanes book -this area had houses, brickwork’s and a Pub!

I am looking around

Sharon looks under a large brick to find another Brick !

Sharon found a  ridge tile !

the mast

You can just see Mal near the two Lads !

we are walking down the road – Bolton were playing at Home you can see the lights on the Reebok stadium
http://www.bwfc.co.uk/page/Home
http://www.avfc.co.uk/

Italian Night ,

we had Four seasons Pizza -Pizza quattro stagioni
Melon and Prosciutto
Spaghetti carbonara  or Pasta alla carbonara
I have been to Italy we drove from Prague and stayed near Venice

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pizza
http://www.deliaonline.com/recipes/type-of-dish/italian/pizza/four-seasons-pizza.html

“Lazio style: Pizza in Lazio (Rome), as well as in many other parts of Italy, is available in two different styles: (1) Take-away shops sell pizza rustica or pizza al taglio. This pizza is cooked in long, rectangular baking pans and relatively thick (1–2 cm). The crust is similar to that of anEnglish muffin, and the pizza is often cooked in an electric oven. It is usually cut with scissors or a knife and sold by weight. (2) In pizza restaurants (pizzerias), pizza is served in a dish in its traditional round shape. It has a thin, crisp base quite different from the thicker and softer Neapolitan style base. It is usually cooked in a wood-fired oven, giving the pizza its unique flavor and texture. In Rome, a pizza napoletana is topped with tomato, mozzarella, anchovies and oil (thus, what in Naples is called pizza romana, in Rome is called pizza napoletana).
Types of Lazio-style pizza include:
Pizza romana (in Naples): tomato, mozzarella, anchovies, oregano, oil;
Pizza viennese: tomato, mozzarella, German sausage, oregano, oil;
Pizza capricciosa (“capricious pizza”): mozzarella, tomato, mushrooms, artichokes, cooked ham, olives, oil (in Rome, prosciutto raw ham is used and half a hard-boiled egg is added);
Pizza quattro stagioni (“four seasons pizza”): same ingredients for the capricciosa, but ingredients not mixed;” taken from  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pizza

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prosciutto
http://www.tasty-italian-cooking.com/prosciutto-recipe.html

Leo Loves Spaghetti he just loves finger food
http://www.deliaonline.com/recipes/type-of-dish/italian/pasta/spaghetti-alla-carbonara.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbonara
http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/spaghetti_carbonara
http://www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/1052/ultimate-spaghetti-carbonara 

Yummy Pizza I loved the ham and cheese

Tiramisu

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiramisu

http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/tiramisu

http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/recipes/tiramisu_82373

I loved this !

Note from Dad : Jake and Evie don’t like coffee so we removed this

Night Time Navigation Two Lads , Crooked Edge Hill ,Russian Food Night

 

http://www.mapmyrun.com/routes/view/59866910

 

        

 

    View towards Rivington Pike 

 

 The Mast

 rear reflective stripes

 I had to find my way up to the two lads I was using map and compass
Note from Dad
weather was very gusty although clear driving rain/Hail  in the gusts  3c with high wind chill due to wind and rain , Some of the Gusts measured 45mph , wind 15 to 20 mph, Jake was struggling to move against the wind on top of the two lads ,

Two Lads – I was testing extra layers of clothing tonight , the hail was not nice !
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hail

 

me navigating from point to point , I found the post ! I was on the way from the two lads to Crooked Edge Hill but the wind was very strong and we were facing the wind and rain which made this difficult,

 the weather was getting back now we were lower down I had to find my way without paths from crooked edge hill back to the road !

 I am making sure that the red needle (N) is kept between two dots, this is difficult sometimes it take practice , my dad just watches me do this and trusts me to get to the place we need to get to !

 

 

Hole Bottom  -looking towards Manchester and Bolton 

 Khalva
http://www.scotlandforvisitors.com/recipes/khalva.php
http://www.internationalrecipes.net/find/Khalva
I didnt like this nor did Evie , Leo loved this ! its a type of pudding ! It has walnuts in it , Leo wasn’t allowed these nuts.

 Siberian Pelmeni
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pelmeni
http://www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/7612/siberian-pelmeni
These are meat dumplings -yummy ! Evie and Leo liked these as well

 This is Russian Salad
http://www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/7025/easy-russian-salad
http://www.jamieoliver.com/recipes/member-recipes/Russian%20salad/3645
we used to eat this in the Czech republic i don’t like the Olives but the rest is yummy

 Shashlik Caucasian
http://www.recipesource.com/ethnic/asia/russian/00/rec0049.html
http://yulinkacooks.blogspot.com/2006/06/lamb-shish-kebabs-or-caucasian.html
http://www.food.com/recipe/true-caucasian-shashlik-238474
I really liked this !

we are looking at the food , its great to try different foods from other countries

 I liked the Kebabs

 Evie tried the food as well

It was a great meal ,  after my run and the weather it was great !

 

Evie picked out Italy for next week !

Two Lads on Two Lads On a very wild day, Winter Hill

 conditions variable ,visibility  good to poor , driving rain , very wet underneath ,lower wind chill then yesterday  though the wind was very strong 40/50  mph gusts
http://jakeofwinterhill.blogspot.com/2011/10/hole-bottom-tramway-on-winter-hill-in.html

http://jakeofwinterhill.blogspot.com/search/label/winter%20hill




http://jakeofwinterhill.blogspot.com/search/label/winter%20hill%20mast

just looking towards the pike and the two lads

towards Holden‘s plantation

Me and my friend Alex ,

Crossing a stream , showing Alex

can you see the two lads

the mist has come in and they are gone , rain is coming  again !

The old brickwork’s at Hole bottom

Alex watching me crossing the mud and water on the gate

old bell pit just next to Hole bottom

walking up the road , we had just advised some people on D of E where the mast was !

you can see them in the distance

running along the road

we met a lone walker walking towards the mast !

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_Hill_transmitting_station
http://www.aerialsandtv.com/winterhilltx.html
http://tx.mb21.co.uk/gallery/winterhill/index.php
http://www.thebigtower.com/live/WinterHill/Index.htm


see the stats for the mast
http://www.thebigtower.com/live/WinterHill/131P20600705070.htm

me and Alex at the mast ! it was very windy and noisy

running across the moor towards the two lads

still going – dad stayed with Alex

very misty towards the two lads -it was very wet

http://www.about-rivington.co.uk/acatalog/Two_Lads_Cairns.html


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_Hill_(North_West_England)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Pennine_Moors

me and Alex on the two lads

It was very windy I couldn’t stand up !

showing Alex the smaller of the two lads

on the way down from the two lads

I run off the road as my trainers are not good on the road

running towards the car ,

Although Winter Hill is a wonderful “playground” and a place of great

beauty and fascination for many of us, we should always be aware of the

hidden dangers at all times, and do all we can to minimise them.

Unfortunately, many of us like the bleakness and solitude of the place,

and often go wandering around on our own – and at times when there is

perhaps nobody else around on the moors – and in the most appalling

weather conditions! Some would call us foolhardy, but this is our choice

and what we choose to do – and we would defend our right to do just this

– so long as we are all aware of the possible dangers and we dress and

equip ourselves to minimise the risks.

In poor weather never underestimate Winter Hill. The bogs really ARE

there. The visibility really CAN vanish totally within 60 seconds. The

body surface temperature plus the chill factor for those unsuitably

dressed, really CAN drop to –10C or more on top of the Hill.

DO take care on Winter Hill ….. but enjoy it! Remember. It CAN bite!

taken from Dave Lane

http://www.daveweb.co.uk/whvol2.pdf

http://www.mountain.rescue.org.uk/mountain-advice

http://www.mountain.rescue.org.uk/mountain-advice/mobile-phones

http://www.kendalmrt.org.uk/safetyadvice.htm

http://www.mountainrescue.org.uk/safety-advice

http://www.bowlandpenninemrt.org.uk/safety.htm?

new safety videos/advice 

I have included the above links for people who need to understand the risks,

Both Jake and Alex were fully equipped for the conditions, with head to toe multiple  layers , windproof and waterproof  layers, 

Hole bottom ,Tramway on Winter Hill in poor weather

Although Winter Hill is a wonderful “playground” and a place of great

beauty and fascination for many of us, we should always be aware of the

hidden dangers at all times, and do all we can to minimise them.

Unfortunately, many of us like the bleakness and solitude of the place,

and often go wandering around on our own – and at times when there is

perhaps nobody else around on the moors – and in the most appalling

weather conditions! Some would call us foolhardy, but this is our choice

and what we choose to do – and we would defend our right to do just this

– so long as we are all aware of the possible dangers and we dress and

equip ourselves to minimise the risks.

In poor weather never underestimate Winter Hill. The bogs really ARE

there. The visibility really CAN vanish totally within 60 seconds. The

body surface temperature plus the chill factor for those unsuitably

dressed, really CAN drop to –10C or more on top of the Hill.

DO take care on Winter Hill ….. but enjoy it! Remember. It CAN bite!

taken from Dave Lane

http://www.daveweb.co.uk/whvol2.pdf

http://www.mountain.rescue.org.uk/mountain-advice

http://www.mountain.rescue.org.uk/mountain-advice/mobile-phones

http://www.kendalmrt.org.uk/safetyadvice.htm

http://www.mountainrescue.org.uk/safety-advice

http://www.bowlandpenninemrt.org.uk/safety.htm?

new safety videos/advice

I have included the above links for people who need to understand the risks,

Leo had full body cover, duel fleece and waterproof ,

we kept to well defined paths , we know the area, Evie and Jake have multiple layers on them ,

Jake and  Evie have considerable experience in this weather and environment, we always treat this area with respect ,Both Evie and Jake enjoyed this walk, please enjoy but understand and manage risks

the weather consisted of driving rain , waterlogged paths, swollen streams, Very high wind chill 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_Hill_(North_West_England)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Pennine_Moors

http://jakeofwinterhill.blogspot.com/search/label/winter%20hill

http://jakeofwinterhill.blogspot.com/search/label/winter%20hill%20mast

http://jakeofwinterhill.blogspot.com/search/label/winter%20hill%20mast

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_Hill_transmitting_station

http://www.aerialsandtv.com/winterhilltx.html

http://tx.mb21.co.uk/gallery/winterhill/index.php

http://www.thebigtower.com/live/WinterHill/Index.htm

see the stats for the mast

http://www.thebigtower.com/live/WinterHill/131P20600705070.htm

Evie looking at the mist and looking for flowers

walking up the hill

walking towards the path

This shows the mist and rain rolling in

Leo looking around

I keep a eye on dad – i have my walkie talkie

by Holden’s plantation

we walked along the bank as the path was like a stream

This was deep too deep for my boots

I helped Evie to cross this

a old brick from Hole bottom

walking towards hole bottom

using the gate to cross the water

Evie standing on one of the sinks made at  Hole Bottom

the tramway

Leo looking at Evie -can you see me ?

the old mines which used the tramways

http://www.youtube.com/get_player

Leo fell asleep , he always sleeps on this side no matter how many times dad moves him

me and Evie on the Bridge

yes the mud is deep my dad helped me and evie off the bridge without getting wet

on our way back along the road – a snack !

a old mine pit

a little pool of water – old mine ?

the two lads !

winter hill road winter hill mast to two lads, Horwich,

the view towards the pike !

older BT post ?

Hole Bottom
http://www.chorleyhistorysociety.co.uk/page01b.htm

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CCYQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.daveweb.co.uk%2Fwhvol3.pdf&ei=iSN_TuvRFsmX8QPikYB9&usg=AFQjCNEnu61BWe464ZMEbyxmdyiZom-1Bw&sig2=XJJT2Rn0PVhUtvG-a4Rwtw

http://www.daveweb.co.uk/whvol3.pdf


http://www.daveweb.co.uk/whvol2.pdf


http://www.d.lane.btinternet.co.uk/whvol1.pdf


http://justramblingon.co.uk/country-walks/west-pennine-moors/walking-the-dean-ditch/

this brick comes from Horwich  we will have to find more of the brick ,

some of the stone building blocks for the brickworks

on the way to the mast via the old tramway

the tramway

https://jakeofwinterhill.wordpress.com/tag/tramway/
http://jakeofwinterhill.blogspot.com/2011/06/winter-hill-tramway-with-nana-newby.html

crossing a stream

these are the old shafts and drift mine which were served by the tramway

Armitage Brick

the mast in mist

the wall between Horwich and Chorley

yes its very muddy

one of the wooden bridges,

crossing the mud along the path

http://www.youtube.com/get_player

my trainers are orange and green
http://www.walshsports.com/images/FellRunning.pdf

I am having a drink , can you see the old shaft which has a fence around it ?

towards the two lads

car tyre tracks ! near the two lads

more mud/peat

just passing the two lads

http://www.about-rivington.co.uk/acatalog/Two_Lads_Cairns.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_Hill_(North_West_England)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Pennine_Moors

there is person just 30 metres away

down from two lads

back near the car

http://jakeofwinterhill.blogspot.com/search/label/winter%20hill


http://jakeofwinterhill.blogspot.com/search/label/Two%20lads


http://jakeofwinterhill.blogspot.com/search/label/winter%20hill%20mast