Two lads – quick trip

just a few photo’s from our run today we met going down from the two lads the Lostock running club
http://www.lostockac.co.uk/ 

they don’t have a children s section but do have a lake district camp i can go on .last year we did this as a walk from Wilderswood  Leo was born the next day !
http://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=9116907786102483479#editor/target=post;postID=5804559721579259188

Two Lads to Hole Bottom with Sharon , meeting with Mal and Italian evening !

Today we met up with Sharon who came with us on walk to the Two Lads to Hole Bottom with Leo,
We met Mal  Frith  with his three dogs ,Brett ,Sam and Molly at Hole Bottom by Chance

http://justramblingon.co.uk/
https://plus.google.com/u/0/115067517513197991613/posts

http://justramblingon.co.uk/featured-post/diary-2011-week-48/ photo of me and Mals trip on Winter Hill with Brett,Sam and Molly
our route

http://www.mapmyrun.com/routes/view/60456438

This is Sharon , Sharon came to our house ,

It was muddy after all the rain and hail

Rivington Pike ,Sharon had not been here before So I told her what everything was called  we are standing by the two lads
http://jakeofwinterhill.blogspot.com/search/label/Two%20lads
http://justramblingon.co.uk/history-pages/two-lads-hill/
http://jakeofwinterhill.blogspot.com/2011/04/two-lads-to-rivington-pike-and-back.html

Rivington Pike links
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rivington_Pike
http://www.about-rivington.co.uk/acatalog/Rivington_Pike.html

Two Lads links
http://www.about-rivington.co.uk/acatalog/Two_Lads_Cairns.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Pennine_Moors
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_Hill_(North_West_England)
http://www.daveweb.co.uk/whvol2.pdf

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_Hill_(North_West_England)

Winter Hill Mast
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_Hill_(North_West_England)
http://justramblingon.co.uk/tag/winter-hill/
http://www.d.lane.btinternet.co.uk/winterhillthebook.htm
http://jakeofwinterhill.blogspot.com/search/label/winter%20hill

Me with Brett ,This is Mal !

This is Sam and You can just see Molly!

Hole Bottom
https://jakeofwinterhill.wordpress.com/2011/10/08/hole-bottom-tramway-on-winter-hill-in-poor-weather/


http://justramblingon.co.uk/country-walks/west-pennine-moors/walking-the-dean-ditch/

based on Dave lanes book -this area had houses, brickwork’s and a Pub!

I am looking around

Sharon looks under a large brick to find another Brick !

Sharon found a  ridge tile !

the mast

You can just see Mal near the two Lads !

we are walking down the road – Bolton were playing at Home you can see the lights on the Reebok stadium
http://www.bwfc.co.uk/page/Home
http://www.avfc.co.uk/

Italian Night ,

we had Four seasons Pizza -Pizza quattro stagioni
Melon and Prosciutto
Spaghetti carbonara  or Pasta alla carbonara
I have been to Italy we drove from Prague and stayed near Venice

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pizza
http://www.deliaonline.com/recipes/type-of-dish/italian/pizza/four-seasons-pizza.html

“Lazio style: Pizza in Lazio (Rome), as well as in many other parts of Italy, is available in two different styles: (1) Take-away shops sell pizza rustica or pizza al taglio. This pizza is cooked in long, rectangular baking pans and relatively thick (1–2 cm). The crust is similar to that of anEnglish muffin, and the pizza is often cooked in an electric oven. It is usually cut with scissors or a knife and sold by weight. (2) In pizza restaurants (pizzerias), pizza is served in a dish in its traditional round shape. It has a thin, crisp base quite different from the thicker and softer Neapolitan style base. It is usually cooked in a wood-fired oven, giving the pizza its unique flavor and texture. In Rome, a pizza napoletana is topped with tomato, mozzarella, anchovies and oil (thus, what in Naples is called pizza romana, in Rome is called pizza napoletana).
Types of Lazio-style pizza include:
Pizza romana (in Naples): tomato, mozzarella, anchovies, oregano, oil;
Pizza viennese: tomato, mozzarella, German sausage, oregano, oil;
Pizza capricciosa (“capricious pizza”): mozzarella, tomato, mushrooms, artichokes, cooked ham, olives, oil (in Rome, prosciutto raw ham is used and half a hard-boiled egg is added);
Pizza quattro stagioni (“four seasons pizza”): same ingredients for the capricciosa, but ingredients not mixed;” taken from  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pizza

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prosciutto
http://www.tasty-italian-cooking.com/prosciutto-recipe.html

Leo Loves Spaghetti he just loves finger food
http://www.deliaonline.com/recipes/type-of-dish/italian/pasta/spaghetti-alla-carbonara.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbonara
http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/spaghetti_carbonara
http://www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/1052/ultimate-spaghetti-carbonara 

Yummy Pizza I loved the ham and cheese

Tiramisu

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiramisu

http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/tiramisu

http://www.bbc.co.uk/food/recipes/tiramisu_82373

I loved this !

Note from Dad : Jake and Evie don’t like coffee so we removed this

Winter Hill Navigation Practice and Spanish food week

Weather – poor , windy -gusts up to 40 mph ,driving rain ,very poor visibility at times , ideal training for Map and compass for Jake , the route was about Jake following a compass bearing in poor conditions and being  able to get to the correct point with minimum guidance from myself.,Jake corrected the route several times to avoid the Bogs and old shafts  and got to the correct point. Jake is being taught how to navigate in all weathers on winter hill ,as the weather can change dramatically like it did today , it went from  poor weather to almost calm  with good visibility in less than 10 mins  Please be careful , we take a great deal of care and prepare well, Jake was equipped with full waterproofs from head to toe, Jake uses and has spare multiple layers,today Jake switched his head gear from his distinctive spikey hat  to deal with the driving rain ,  his trainers are designed for these conditions and should not be confused with normal trainers , these are locally made and fell running trainers.

http://www.megagrip.co.uk/walsh/walsh.htm

http://www.peteblandsports.co.uk/brands/walsh/

http://www.alpineworld.com/trail/walsh.html

http://www.walshsports.co.uk/performance_footwear.html

Jake has been taught many techniques to reduce windchill and the effects of the weather ,and now does this instinctively , Jake has on him headlamp, emergency led light whistle, mobile phone (fully charged), spare gloves, spare batteries ,extra clothing, GPS tracker, walkie talkie, map, compass, high viz clothing/reflective piping, running strobe lights with 1 mile range. giving him 360 Visibility which is essential in these conditions. he has sweets plus GORP snacks on him.

 

http://www.mapmyrun.com/routes/view/59148332#

my route

I  used this technique to move around in  the driving rain to protect my eyes , this rain stings and hurts

I can see without loosing visibility due to the rain, I  changed my hat and cover my face to protect my eyes and allow me to see.

the weather was very poor

looking down from the two lads

the weather closes in,

standing on the two lads
http://jakeofwinterhill.blogspot.com/search/label/Two%20lads
http://www.about-rivington.co.uk/acatalog/Two_Lads_Cairns.html
http://justramblingon.co.uk/history-pages/two-lads-hill/

this is mals website

I had to find my way on a compass bearing back to the road where the old tramway joins

i use this technique to get  away from the rain and wind , I find the place with the least wind and protect myself from the storm.,

I am learning how to navigate – with a map and compass
http://www.ideal-hiking-equipment.com/compass-navigation.html
http://www.walkingstories.com/page.cfm/page_ID/40/menu_ID/5/title/Wise_Walking

I go from point to point , if you look carefully you can find points to aim for , once you have reached this one you check your compass and aim for the next point. you can use a person to do this , but dad wants me to be able to do this on my own without another person.

I used this section of high grass to aim for  now that I have arrived ,I am looking for the next point,

the weather is getting worse the wind is stronger and is driving the rain harder now

http://www.youtube.com/get_player

I was looking at my compass and forgot to remember to look at my feet , I slipped and fell down  ,
my dad was there to make sure i was OK before he took the photo I was laughing so much !

one of the old  remains on winter hill

I use this combination of hats and clothing to make sure I stay warm and dry , I have upgraded my coat to winter grade and  a winter grade fleece, I have another two layers  which keep me from overheating and feeling damp

I can run between points ,here I am aiming for a black band of peat .

this made a good point to aim for and road was just past this point,

we ran down the tramway after me taking a safety bearing  though the path is very easy to follow

the top path leading to the tramway was very wet

we raced down the tramway

the weather started to clear  -this is looking towards two lads

I am having a snack i have a pair of gloves which allow me to do this so I can still have my hands covered up.

This is looking towards Bolton

Two Lads

I keep to the side so my trainers don’t wear out so quickly

Lower Rivington reservoir

Bolton were playing at home this is Reebok, they were playing Everton

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15802657.stm
http://www.bwfc.co.uk/page/Welcome
http://www.evertonfc.com/home/

Nearly at the car

Every week we are trying food from different parts of the World,

we ate Spanish , this time

patatas bravas, paella, Gambas Ajillo (Garlic Prawns). Spanish meats

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patatas_bravas
http://www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/1177/patatas-bravas
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paella
http://www.jamieoliver.com/recipes/seafood-recipes/paella
http://www.alicante-spain.com/paella.html
http://www.food.com/recipe/sizzling-spanish-garlic-prawns-tapas-style-229363

I love seafood ! Leo liked the potatoes and  liked the Paella, Evie liked the prawns and potatoes,

Wilderswood to Tigers Clough / Shaws Clough , Tramway investigation

http://www.streetmap.co.uk/map.srf?X=364002&Y=412895&A=Y&Z=115

Quick Blog tonight !

note from dad : GPS seems to have been out tonight !

off we go

the Pike

http://www.youtube.com/get_player

Video taken showing the mast and Horwich and the Pike

Jake can vault a farm gate in a few seconds now even in the dark

Bricked up entrance , the other side has also been collapsed  to stop you getting in !

can you see the small brick entrance ?

Yates plastic brick

the tramway has been built up with stones

one of the mine drains in Tigers Clough

I have to balance carefully as its a 4 ft drop on one side plus its a stream and slippy !!!

http://www.youtube.com/get_player

the stream I have to cross is very fast tonight !

crossing another stream in the dark

http://www.youtube.com/get_player

looking around at the View ! we watched the planes as well

through the last fence

http://www.about-rivington.co.uk/acatalog/Tigers_Clough.html
Jakes blogs on Tigers or Shaws Clough
http://jakeofwinterhill.blogspot.com/search/label/Tigers%20Clough
http://www.walkingforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=12060.0
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_Hill_(North_West_England)

crossing the river
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/River_Douglas
http://www.bolton.org.uk/rivington.html
http://www.boltonmuseums.org.uk/collections/local-history/social-history-images/200296?term=postcard&s_tags=&sort_by=Title&item_number=199&b_start:int=0
http://www.brianherald.co.uk/home/58422_moorland-stream.html
http://www.wiganman.co.uk/Content/history/Douglas-1.html
http://www.about-rivington.co.uk/acatalog/Rivington_Pike_Tower.html
https://jakeofwinterhill.wordpress.com/2010/12/27/me-in-the-snow-two-lads-rivingtonbrown-hill-river-douglaswilderswood/

http://www.angelfire.com/poetry/rivington/robbers-graves.htm
http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?guid=a35d1e23-ce51-40a4-b558-bce138ad494b
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rivington
http://rivington.byethost14.com/doku.php?id=shaws-clough-lancashire

Hole bottom ,Tramway on Winter Hill in poor weather

Although Winter Hill is a wonderful “playground” and a place of great

beauty and fascination for many of us, we should always be aware of the

hidden dangers at all times, and do all we can to minimise them.

Unfortunately, many of us like the bleakness and solitude of the place,

and often go wandering around on our own – and at times when there is

perhaps nobody else around on the moors – and in the most appalling

weather conditions! Some would call us foolhardy, but this is our choice

and what we choose to do – and we would defend our right to do just this

– so long as we are all aware of the possible dangers and we dress and

equip ourselves to minimise the risks.

In poor weather never underestimate Winter Hill. The bogs really ARE

there. The visibility really CAN vanish totally within 60 seconds. The

body surface temperature plus the chill factor for those unsuitably

dressed, really CAN drop to –10C or more on top of the Hill.

DO take care on Winter Hill ….. but enjoy it! Remember. It CAN bite!

taken from Dave Lane

http://www.daveweb.co.uk/whvol2.pdf

http://www.mountain.rescue.org.uk/mountain-advice

http://www.mountain.rescue.org.uk/mountain-advice/mobile-phones

http://www.kendalmrt.org.uk/safetyadvice.htm

http://www.mountainrescue.org.uk/safety-advice

http://www.bowlandpenninemrt.org.uk/safety.htm?

new safety videos/advice

I have included the above links for people who need to understand the risks,

Leo had full body cover, duel fleece and waterproof ,

we kept to well defined paths , we know the area, Evie and Jake have multiple layers on them ,

Jake and  Evie have considerable experience in this weather and environment, we always treat this area with respect ,Both Evie and Jake enjoyed this walk, please enjoy but understand and manage risks

the weather consisted of driving rain , waterlogged paths, swollen streams, Very high wind chill 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_Hill_(North_West_England)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Pennine_Moors

http://jakeofwinterhill.blogspot.com/search/label/winter%20hill

http://jakeofwinterhill.blogspot.com/search/label/winter%20hill%20mast

http://jakeofwinterhill.blogspot.com/search/label/winter%20hill%20mast

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_Hill_transmitting_station

http://www.aerialsandtv.com/winterhilltx.html

http://tx.mb21.co.uk/gallery/winterhill/index.php

http://www.thebigtower.com/live/WinterHill/Index.htm

see the stats for the mast

http://www.thebigtower.com/live/WinterHill/131P20600705070.htm

Evie looking at the mist and looking for flowers

walking up the hill

walking towards the path

This shows the mist and rain rolling in

Leo looking around

I keep a eye on dad – i have my walkie talkie

by Holden’s plantation

we walked along the bank as the path was like a stream

This was deep too deep for my boots

I helped Evie to cross this

a old brick from Hole bottom

walking towards hole bottom

using the gate to cross the water

Evie standing on one of the sinks made at  Hole Bottom

the tramway

Leo looking at Evie -can you see me ?

the old mines which used the tramways

http://www.youtube.com/get_player

Leo fell asleep , he always sleeps on this side no matter how many times dad moves him

me and Evie on the Bridge

yes the mud is deep my dad helped me and evie off the bridge without getting wet

on our way back along the road – a snack !

a old mine pit

a little pool of water – old mine ?

the two lads !

winter hill road winter hill mast to two lads, Horwich,

the view towards the pike !

older BT post ?

Hole Bottom
http://www.chorleyhistorysociety.co.uk/page01b.htm

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CCYQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.daveweb.co.uk%2Fwhvol3.pdf&ei=iSN_TuvRFsmX8QPikYB9&usg=AFQjCNEnu61BWe464ZMEbyxmdyiZom-1Bw&sig2=XJJT2Rn0PVhUtvG-a4Rwtw

http://www.daveweb.co.uk/whvol3.pdf


http://www.daveweb.co.uk/whvol2.pdf


http://www.d.lane.btinternet.co.uk/whvol1.pdf


http://justramblingon.co.uk/country-walks/west-pennine-moors/walking-the-dean-ditch/

this brick comes from Horwich  we will have to find more of the brick ,

some of the stone building blocks for the brickworks

on the way to the mast via the old tramway

the tramway

https://jakeofwinterhill.wordpress.com/tag/tramway/
http://jakeofwinterhill.blogspot.com/2011/06/winter-hill-tramway-with-nana-newby.html

crossing a stream

these are the old shafts and drift mine which were served by the tramway

Armitage Brick

the mast in mist

the wall between Horwich and Chorley

yes its very muddy

one of the wooden bridges,

crossing the mud along the path

http://www.youtube.com/get_player

my trainers are orange and green
http://www.walshsports.com/images/FellRunning.pdf

I am having a drink , can you see the old shaft which has a fence around it ?

towards the two lads

car tyre tracks ! near the two lads

more mud/peat

just passing the two lads

http://www.about-rivington.co.uk/acatalog/Two_Lads_Cairns.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_Hill_(North_West_England)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Pennine_Moors

there is person just 30 metres away

down from two lads

back near the car

http://jakeofwinterhill.blogspot.com/search/label/winter%20hill


http://jakeofwinterhill.blogspot.com/search/label/Two%20lads


http://jakeofwinterhill.blogspot.com/search/label/winter%20hill%20mast

Winter Hill tramway with my Nana, Evie and Leo

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Me and my Nana

Me and Evie up the road

Looking at a flock of Sheep

Evie looking at a GPO pole

Me and Nana  and Evie on the Winter Hill road

me looking at bricks

a brickworks Kiln

some bricks  at he Brickworks -I went to the other one yesterday
http://jakeofwinterhill.blogspot.com/2011/06/wilderswood-to-two-lads-to-winter-hill.html

Evie and Jake on the Iron pipe

the tramway

looking at the thistle

Me and Evie taking a rest

Nana on the tramway

part of the Old mine

two lads

Looking at a stream

windy

Leo is in the back carrier he has just woken up
http://www.sanoodi.com/routes/winter-hill-tramway-nana-311370/

http://www.daveweb.co.uk/whvol2.pdf
http://www.about-rivington.co.uk/acatalog/Two_Lads_Cairns.html
about the two Lads
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Pennine_Moors
good background to this area
http://web.ukonline.co.uk/jed/latest_walk29.htm
another local walking site
http://justramblingon.co.uk/tag/rivington-pike/
Good Walking site
http://www.boltonmrt.org.uk/go.php?page=news#3370

Wilderswood , Crooked edge Hill ,Two Lads, Wallsuches to new chapel lane , Winter Hill, Horwich

 

route

http://www.sanoodi.com/routes/two-lads-to-new-chapel-lane-horwich-304860/

3 miles – Wilderswood , Crooked edge Hill ,Two Lads, Wallsuches to New Chapel lane

http://www.about-rivington.co.uk/acatalog/Two_Lads_Cairns.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Pennine_Moors

Jakes blogs for Montcliffe

http://jakeofwinterhill.blogspot.com/search/label/Montcliffe

Jakes Blogs for two lads

http://jakeofwinterhill.blogspot.com/search/label/Two%20lads

Jakes Blogs for New Chapel Lane

http://jakeofwinterhill.blogspot.com/search/label/New%20chapel%20Lane

note from Dad : Wilderswood  – on the left hand side of the wood was shaft number 1 for wilderswood colliery

Rivington Pike

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rivington_Pike

Lower Rivington reservoir

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upper_Rivington_Reservoir

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lower_Rivington_Reservoir

http://web.ukonline.co.uk/jed/rivington_reservoirs.htm

http://www.lancashire.gov.uk/environment/landscape/landscapecharacass/charcarea9.asp

http://www.bbc.co.uk/liverpool/localhistory/journey/underground/reservoir/history.shtml

Me in the mist
http://justramblingon.co.uk/history-pages/two-lads-hill/

http://www.about-rivington.co.uk/acatalog/Two_Lads_Cairns.html

note from dad :Memorial to Claire Astbury  1977 to 2009 which we found just below two lads

http://claire-bear-astbury.gonetoosoon.org/

me on top of two lads it was too windy to stay upright safely

me running down the hill from two lads

can you find me

me in the mud

coal on the path , pieces of old brick found on this path

pieces of burnt coal  called clinker –
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/clinker 

Note from dad :armchair – almost a bell pit shape -side nearest seems to have been washed away!

me climbing out of a stream

Red Moss , Reebok stadium  from Montcliffe

one tiny orange mushroom – can you see ?

iron rail found on path down from Lower Montcliffe Quarry

fossil which we found last time

https://jakeofwinterhill.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/img00197.jpg

 

Path up to one of the Montcliffe lower quarries

on the way to the reservoir above the Arcon development  on the way to Wallsuches

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wallsuches

http://www.britishlistedbuildings.co.uk/en-462376-wallsuches-bleach-works-horwich

http://www.redrow.co.uk/developments/arcon-village/

weather:

visibility went from  just under a mile  to 15 metres in just under 10 mins

high wind chill factor , sleet some snow and hail ,

enjoy and keep safe when outside

please take care

http://www.bowlandpenninemrt.org.uk/home.htm

http://www.boltonmrt.org.uk/go.php?page=main

http://www.lancashireminesrescue.colsal.org.uk/

Disused Turton Moor Colliery/brickworks site ?, Turton Moor, near Belmont ,Blackburn With Darwen

spooky woods

tramway to the mine

going up the mountain

Whitaker, Darwen brick

http://www.penmorfa.com/bricks/england8.html

site about bricks

Bull Hill Fire Clay works Darwin – look at the Brick
Note from Dad
http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/34497
at Bull Hill there was a sanatorium , plus evidence of mines -based upon maps unknown location of the Brickworks ?

http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/1731735
Turton Moor Colliery site ? two shafts Winter Hill on right hand side in the background

Turton Moor Colliery  view of site looking down the hill

Turton Moor Colliery  -another waste tip ?

Turton Moor Colliery  waste tips -lots of burnt coal ?

Turton Moor Brick Works – lots of old bricks here !

4 ramps for the tramway ?

where they put the gold 😉  in the spooky woods -the woods were very dark and  wet!


Dads Note :pipe works by Blackburn Road,? lot of iron engine mounting’s found as well

http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=53115
history of the Blackburn and Darwin area

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Pennine_Moors
information about the West Pennine Moors


http://www.westpenninemoors.com/discover_intro
information about the West Pennine Moors

http://www.enotes.com/topic/West_Pennine_Moors
information about the West Pennine Moors


http://www.blackburn.gov.uk/server.php?show=ConWebDoc.21132&setPaginate=No
Walks in this area with ref to pipe works by Blackburn Road,


http://www.cottontown.org/page.cfm?pageid=257
history of the Blackburn and Darwin area

Coniston Old Man Mine or Moss head Slate Quarry -part 3

overlooking the mine -Coniston village in the background

down the slate along the slate track

having a rest

sunbathing -this is a doorway look carefully!

a very big wheel -part of the slate transport ?

the railway that goes nowhere -nickname railway of doom

in the mine -the torch has 1m candle watts of  power only shows up a small part of the mine

in the big dark mine

a video of the trip inside the mine

exit from mine

looking at the view to Coniston lake  from another railway track

across the slate waste with Coniston in the background

big pieces of slate

view of  Coniston lake , the car park where we parked is just visable

nearly back to the car

see part 1 and 2 for further details  – of the trip

Links :

http://www.mapmyrun.com/route/united-kingdom/null/178128558938845890

http://www.sanoodi.com/routes/coniston-old-man-mine-299778/

use the 3 D display to see the complete route in mapmyrun

1341 feet climb in total , climb to the mine has a ranking  of 1 which is the most severe climb rating without climbing using ropes , 4.21 miles total  completed in 3.5 hours, pause time in mines exploring 1.5 hours,