Two Lads, meeting with Mal and kite flying -Clare’s Birthday

The route we took

http://www.mapmyrun.com/routes/view/57637718

“http://www.mapmyrun.com/routes/view/57637718”

http://www.mapmyrun.com/routes/view/57637854

“http://www.mapmyrun.com/routes/view/57637854”

Note from dad:

Jake has been ill for two weeks , so we are keeping things low key at the moment,

Me and Evie

looking towards Horwich

They have repaired the fence –

can you see the pike ?

the Two lads

the Reebok stadium, Blackrod

I met Mal Frith who writes the following web site
http://justramblingon.co.uk/
https://plus.google.com/u/0/115067517513197991613/posts

Evie playing with Brett and Sam can you see the stick ? we found this later !

Can you see me ? there are some people collecting mushrooms ! can you see the Pike ?

Mal  going back

some of the mushrooms we saw

Two Lads -Evie just climbing up

Evie on one of the smaller ones

Jumping down

Me and Evie taking a diffrent path to dad and Leo ,I am helping Evie cross safely

can you see the pike it was very beautiful sunset

the sunset

you have to be careful , dad had checked this out before !
there is a lot of water going down here but it is not flooded ,

this is blocked

on the same line of shafts

the mast

I ran ahead to look at the Kites

Clare came up here to celebrate her birthday what a great idea !

they were flying three kites

Clare is on the two Lads -it was her birthday !

this is Evie flying the Kite,
Note from dad :thankyou very much for letting Evie fly the Kite !
we all wished Clare a happy Birthday !

Evie flying the kite , I did not want to fly the kite !
what a great view and sunset ! fantastic to have a birthday  treat up here !

looking at the sunset

we found the  the stick that Brett and Sam were playing with !

its getting dark now !

The mast lights !

http://www.about-rivington.co.uk/acatalog/Two_Lads_Cairns.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_Hill_(North_West_England)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Pennine_Moors

http://justramblingon.co.uk/history-pages/two-lads-hill/

http://www.white-coppice.co.uk/latest_walk29.htm

I would not recommend wellington boots  for this walk , Jake and Evie are very used to this and wanted to spend prolonged time splashing in the mud , please be careful  ,

wilderswood to Pike to winter Hill to wilderswood

quick post !
weather good no rain mist just dark ! 

the two lads

Wilderswood

the mine Vent for Wilderswood

Rivington pike

http://www.youtube.com/get_player

Winter Hill mast

Brown Hill and mast

http://www.youtube.com/get_player

me with Horwich in the background  –Reebok in the background

http://www.youtube.com/get_player

from Horwich to Preston

http://www.youtube.com/get_player

roly poly down the Pike , my dad runs then I go the opposite way , my dad stops me from hitting the track at high speed.which would hurt,
Note : from dad this is steep for people who know the back of the pike towards winter hill needs care in the dark  !

me looking at a mine shaft

on the way to mast crossing a stream

http://www.youtube.com/get_player

the mast

http://www.youtube.com/get_player

down to Wilderswood!

http://jakeofwinterhill.blogspot.com/2011/01/rivington-pike-to-brown-hill-to-crooked.html

http://jakeofwinterhill.blogspot.com/2011/07/rivington-pike-to-brown-hill-back-of.html

http://jakeofwinterhill.blogspot.com/2011/04/two-lads-to-rivington-pike-and-back.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rivington_Pike

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_Hill_(North_West_England)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Pennine_Moors

http://www.about-rivington.co.uk/acatalog/Rivington_Pike_Tower.html

http://www.manchesterscountryside.com/site/attractions/attraction-results/rivington-pike-p129431

Two Lads on Two Lads On a very wild day, Winter Hill

 conditions variable ,visibility  good to poor , driving rain , very wet underneath ,lower wind chill then yesterday  though the wind was very strong 40/50  mph gusts
http://jakeofwinterhill.blogspot.com/2011/10/hole-bottom-tramway-on-winter-hill-in.html

http://jakeofwinterhill.blogspot.com/search/label/winter%20hill




http://jakeofwinterhill.blogspot.com/search/label/winter%20hill%20mast

just looking towards the pike and the two lads

towards Holden‘s plantation

Me and my friend Alex ,

Crossing a stream , showing Alex

can you see the two lads

the mist has come in and they are gone , rain is coming  again !

The old brickwork’s at Hole bottom

Alex watching me crossing the mud and water on the gate

old bell pit just next to Hole bottom

walking up the road , we had just advised some people on D of E where the mast was !

you can see them in the distance

running along the road

we met a lone walker walking towards the mast !

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_Hill_transmitting_station
http://www.aerialsandtv.com/winterhilltx.html
http://tx.mb21.co.uk/gallery/winterhill/index.php
http://www.thebigtower.com/live/WinterHill/Index.htm


see the stats for the mast
http://www.thebigtower.com/live/WinterHill/131P20600705070.htm

me and Alex at the mast ! it was very windy and noisy

running across the moor towards the two lads

still going – dad stayed with Alex

very misty towards the two lads -it was very wet

http://www.about-rivington.co.uk/acatalog/Two_Lads_Cairns.html


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_Hill_(North_West_England)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Pennine_Moors

me and Alex on the two lads

It was very windy I couldn’t stand up !

showing Alex the smaller of the two lads

on the way down from the two lads

I run off the road as my trainers are not good on the road

running towards the car ,

Although Winter Hill is a wonderful “playground” and a place of great

beauty and fascination for many of us, we should always be aware of the

hidden dangers at all times, and do all we can to minimise them.

Unfortunately, many of us like the bleakness and solitude of the place,

and often go wandering around on our own – and at times when there is

perhaps nobody else around on the moors – and in the most appalling

weather conditions! Some would call us foolhardy, but this is our choice

and what we choose to do – and we would defend our right to do just this

– so long as we are all aware of the possible dangers and we dress and

equip ourselves to minimise the risks.

In poor weather never underestimate Winter Hill. The bogs really ARE

there. The visibility really CAN vanish totally within 60 seconds. The

body surface temperature plus the chill factor for those unsuitably

dressed, really CAN drop to –10C or more on top of the Hill.

DO take care on Winter Hill ….. but enjoy it! Remember. It CAN bite!

taken from Dave Lane

http://www.daveweb.co.uk/whvol2.pdf

http://www.mountain.rescue.org.uk/mountain-advice

http://www.mountain.rescue.org.uk/mountain-advice/mobile-phones

http://www.kendalmrt.org.uk/safetyadvice.htm

http://www.mountainrescue.org.uk/safety-advice

http://www.bowlandpenninemrt.org.uk/safety.htm?

new safety videos/advice 

I have included the above links for people who need to understand the risks,

Both Jake and Alex were fully equipped for the conditions, with head to toe multiple  layers , windproof and waterproof  layers, 

Hole bottom ,Tramway on Winter Hill in poor weather

Although Winter Hill is a wonderful “playground” and a place of great

beauty and fascination for many of us, we should always be aware of the

hidden dangers at all times, and do all we can to minimise them.

Unfortunately, many of us like the bleakness and solitude of the place,

and often go wandering around on our own – and at times when there is

perhaps nobody else around on the moors – and in the most appalling

weather conditions! Some would call us foolhardy, but this is our choice

and what we choose to do – and we would defend our right to do just this

– so long as we are all aware of the possible dangers and we dress and

equip ourselves to minimise the risks.

In poor weather never underestimate Winter Hill. The bogs really ARE

there. The visibility really CAN vanish totally within 60 seconds. The

body surface temperature plus the chill factor for those unsuitably

dressed, really CAN drop to –10C or more on top of the Hill.

DO take care on Winter Hill ….. but enjoy it! Remember. It CAN bite!

taken from Dave Lane

http://www.daveweb.co.uk/whvol2.pdf

http://www.mountain.rescue.org.uk/mountain-advice

http://www.mountain.rescue.org.uk/mountain-advice/mobile-phones

http://www.kendalmrt.org.uk/safetyadvice.htm

http://www.mountainrescue.org.uk/safety-advice

http://www.bowlandpenninemrt.org.uk/safety.htm?

new safety videos/advice

I have included the above links for people who need to understand the risks,

Leo had full body cover, duel fleece and waterproof ,

we kept to well defined paths , we know the area, Evie and Jake have multiple layers on them ,

Jake and  Evie have considerable experience in this weather and environment, we always treat this area with respect ,Both Evie and Jake enjoyed this walk, please enjoy but understand and manage risks

the weather consisted of driving rain , waterlogged paths, swollen streams, Very high wind chill 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_Hill_(North_West_England)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Pennine_Moors

http://jakeofwinterhill.blogspot.com/search/label/winter%20hill

http://jakeofwinterhill.blogspot.com/search/label/winter%20hill%20mast

http://jakeofwinterhill.blogspot.com/search/label/winter%20hill%20mast

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_Hill_transmitting_station

http://www.aerialsandtv.com/winterhilltx.html

http://tx.mb21.co.uk/gallery/winterhill/index.php

http://www.thebigtower.com/live/WinterHill/Index.htm

see the stats for the mast

http://www.thebigtower.com/live/WinterHill/131P20600705070.htm

Evie looking at the mist and looking for flowers

walking up the hill

walking towards the path

This shows the mist and rain rolling in

Leo looking around

I keep a eye on dad – i have my walkie talkie

by Holden’s plantation

we walked along the bank as the path was like a stream

This was deep too deep for my boots

I helped Evie to cross this

a old brick from Hole bottom

walking towards hole bottom

using the gate to cross the water

Evie standing on one of the sinks made at  Hole Bottom

the tramway

Leo looking at Evie -can you see me ?

the old mines which used the tramways

http://www.youtube.com/get_player

Leo fell asleep , he always sleeps on this side no matter how many times dad moves him

me and Evie on the Bridge

yes the mud is deep my dad helped me and evie off the bridge without getting wet

on our way back along the road – a snack !

a old mine pit

a little pool of water – old mine ?

the two lads !

Winter Hill Mine trails, two lads to winter hill mast pits, Horwich

the pike and the reservoir and Wilderswood and wilders moor

across these -these cattle grids have hedgehog ramps in them 🙂

on the way up the two lads

we are with Leo today so i have my boots on !

Adam Hill ( left) and white Brow from the two lads

someone has rebuilt this

I was careful not to knock any of the stones off

two lads with the mast in the background

carefully coming off the two lads middle brook in the background

I can still run but have to wait for my dad as Leo is in the back carrier and does not like to run yet !

the mines are on the left hand side – you can just see some evidence of the tips

this shaft is blocked off

one of the flooded shafts

learning how to drink safely on the moors -dont do this unless you check to see where the water comes from

Leo looking at me eating bilberries
http://www.heatherandhillforts.co.uk/index.php/en/about/heather/71-bilberry

eating Bilberries

sitting down to eat – pike is in the background

old shaft -capped

another drinking source

Old shaft near the mast

the masts at the back of Winter hill

testing my balance

Old shaft

me doing a roly poly

Leo asleep

one area of old bell pits near the brickworks

practicing going under a fence without damaging the fence or Me!

one of the old bell pits

this area has a lot of bell pits and waste mounds

old pipe ?

someone has been digging here – this is from the area near the brickworks

Leo has just woken up !

http://www.daveweb.co.uk/whvol2.pdf
P48

“Although Winter Hill is a wonderful “playground” and a place of great
beauty and fascination for many of us, we should always be aware of the
hidden dangers at all times, and do all we can to minimise them.
Unfortunately, many of us like the bleakness and solitude of the place,
and often go wandering around on our own – and at times when there is
perhaps nobody else around on the moors – and in the most appalling
weather conditions! Some would call us foolhardy, but this is our choice
and what we choose to do – and we would defend our right to do just this
– so long as we are all aware of the possible dangers and we dress and
equip ourselves to minimise the risks.
In poor weather never underestimate Winter Hill. The bogs really ARE
there. The visibility really CAN vanish totally within 60 seconds. The
body surface temperature plus the chill factor for those unsuitablydressed, really CAN drop to –10C or more on top of the Hill.
DO take care on Winter Hill ….. but enjoy it! Remember. It CAN bite”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_Hill_(North_West_England)

http://www.viewfinderpanoramas.org/panoramas/ENG/WINTER.GIF

http://www.ukfree.tv/txdetail.php?a=SD660144

http://www.d.lane.btinternet.co.uk/winterindex.html

http://www.about-rivington.co.uk/acatalog/Winter_Hill_Mines.html

http://www.mineexplorer.org.uk/winterhill.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kT_hAN0HGEA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ff69PQ0GEFU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bR_1i2eCkl4

http://www.lancashirewalks.com/WinterHillArchive.pdf

http://about-cumbria.co.uk/section/5039/flooded-mine-tunnel-under-winter-hill/

http://www.about-rivington.co.uk/acatalog/Winter_Hill_Water_Tunnels.html

Wilderswood mine trail ,Montcliffe,Rivington ,Horwich

small yellow and black ladybird

just looking at the grasses

old gatepost

old mine level

old water pipe from the pond or mine ?

by the old entrance to the mine still blowing cold air

down towards cabins pit

winter hill mast in the distance

the owners showed me a very gentle old horse – he loved polo mints

old level and tramway

old mine drain?

one of the old rail s

the old tramway bridge – rails

me on a bridge across the tramway

this bridge was reinforced by iron rails

the pike

looking for grasshoppers

me holding a grasshopper

Bell pit

one of the levels

the mast from wilderswood two lads

http://www.sanoodi.com/routes/wilderswood-mine-trail-311592/
http://justramblingon.co.uk/country-walks/rivington/to-the-wilderswood/
http://trails.mtbr.com/cat/trails-around-the-world/europe-trails/trails-europe-united-kingdom/trail/rivington/prd_167366_4539crx.aspx
http://justramblingon.co.uk/tag/dogs/page/3/

http://www.d.lane.btinternet.co.uk/winterpike.html

http://www.about-rivington.co.uk/acatalog/Rivington_Pike_Folklore.html

http://jakeofwinterhill.blogspot.com/search/label/Rivington%20Pike

http://justramblingon.co.uk/history-pages/two-lads-hill/

http://www.about-rivington.co.uk/acatalog/Two_Lads_Cairns.html

Rivington Pike links

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rivington_Pike

http://www.about-rivington.co.uk/acatalog/Rivington_Pike.html

Two Lads links

http://www.about-rivington.co.uk/acatalog/Two_Lads_Cairns.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Pennine_Moors

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_Hill_(North_West_England)

http://www.daveweb.co.uk/whvol2.pdf

Wilderswood to Two Lads to Winter Hill mast Brickworks to River Douglas

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on the way from wilderswood

the Pike

The mast in the mist -two lads is to the left

 http://ukmoths.org.uk/show.php?bf=2069
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinnabar_moth
http://www.rspb.org.uk/wildlife/wildlifegarden/atoz/c/cinnabarmoth.aspx
http://www.haworth-village.org.uk/nature/pictures/large-insects.asp?pic=117
cinnabar month

on the way to Two lads

wet -switched to waterproof Hat

on top of the two lads

 http://jakeofwinterhill.blogspot.com/search/label/Two%20lads

on the way to the mast

 http://jakeofwinterhill.blogspot.com/search/label/winter%20hill%20mast

we came across a wall next to this 3 bell pits

on of the bell pits

on the mast road

on the way down from the mast

the old brickworks

the old brickworks at the back of the mast

a old sink – they used to make these here

very interesting moss

very wet between the mast and River Douglas

This route was very wet today – this goes from the mast to Rivington Pike

nearly into the deep bog !

crossing a stream

I wanted to take this home -dad wouldn’t let me !

River Douglas 
https://jakeofwinterhill.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/img028661.jpg


http://jakeofwinterhill.blogspot.com/2010/12/rivington-pike-rivington-horwich-bell.html

http://prestonwalkies.blogspot.com/2010/04/quick-walk-up-winter-hill-from-belmont.html

http://www.bolton.org.uk/winterhill.html

http://www.environment-agency.gov.uk/cy/ymchwil/cynllunio/33512.aspx

quick break!

This is the water tunnel next to Brown Hill 

another rest !

 Lower Rivington reservoir

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upper_Rivington_Reservoir

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lower_Rivington_Reservoir

http://web.ukonline.co.uk/jed/rivington_reservoirs.htm

http://www.lancashire.gov.uk/environment/landscape/landscapecharacass/charcarea9.asp

http://www.bbc.co.uk/liverpool/localhistory/journey/underground/reservoir/history.shtml

http://jakeofwinterhill.blogspot.com/search/label/Two%20lads

http://www.about-rivington.co.uk/acatalog/Rivington_Pike.html

http://www.angelfire.com/in/rivington/

http://www.bolton.org.uk/pike.html

http://www.rivingtonboardingkennels.co.uk/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rivington_Pike

http://nwex.co.uk/showthread.php?t=6595

if you wanted to know what it looked like at the top of the Pike !

http://www.d.lane.btinternet.co.uk/winterpike.html

http://www.about-rivington.co.uk/acatalog/Rivington_Pike_Folklore.html

http://jakeofwinterhill.blogspot.com/search/label/Rivington%20Pike

http://justramblingon.co.uk/history-pages/two-lads-hill/

http://www.about-rivington.co.uk/acatalog/Two_Lads_Cairns.html

Rivington Pike links

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rivington_Pike

http://www.about-rivington.co.uk/acatalog/Rivington_Pike.html

Two Lads links

http://www.about-rivington.co.uk/acatalog/Two_Lads_Cairns.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Pennine_Moors

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_Hill_(North_West_England)

http://www.daveweb.co.uk/whvol2.pdf

Route taken,

http://www.sanoodi.com/routes/wilderswood-two-lads-winter-hill-r-douglas-311352/

• Average speed: 3.4 mph
• Max speed: 6.9 mph
• Pace: 17:25 min/mi
• Altitude gain: 207.0 m
• Altitude loss: 212.0 m
• route is 3.1 miles long

 

Winter Hill tramway with my Nana, Evie and Leo

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Me and my Nana

Me and Evie up the road

Looking at a flock of Sheep

Evie looking at a GPO pole

Me and Nana  and Evie on the Winter Hill road

me looking at bricks

a brickworks Kiln

some bricks  at he Brickworks -I went to the other one yesterday
http://jakeofwinterhill.blogspot.com/2011/06/wilderswood-to-two-lads-to-winter-hill.html

Evie and Jake on the Iron pipe

the tramway

looking at the thistle

Me and Evie taking a rest

Nana on the tramway

part of the Old mine

two lads

Looking at a stream

windy

Leo is in the back carrier he has just woken up
http://www.sanoodi.com/routes/winter-hill-tramway-nana-311370/

http://www.daveweb.co.uk/whvol2.pdf
http://www.about-rivington.co.uk/acatalog/Two_Lads_Cairns.html
about the two Lads
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Pennine_Moors
good background to this area
http://web.ukonline.co.uk/jed/latest_walk29.htm
another local walking site
http://justramblingon.co.uk/tag/rivington-pike/
Good Walking site
http://www.boltonmrt.org.uk/go.php?page=news#3370

>second part of 10 peaks Adam Hill to white Brow to counting Hill to Winter Hill to Noon Hill

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see the following routes
http://www.sanoodi.com/routes/jwh-10-peaks-part-2-adams-hill-and-white-br-305642/
http://www.sanoodi.com/routes/counting-hill-winter-hill-noon-hill-catter–305646/

Looking towards the Pike from Wildersmoor

Rivington Pike and Two lads(RH)

Bell Pit near Adam Hill

White Brow from Adam Hill,

Winter Hill Mast in the background

on the White Brow

evidence of mine near Knoll at 350m

Running down towards Burnt Edge -350 Knoll on right hand side

Old  animal  feeding trough

old farm house -Holden’s plantation

sitting down with Winter Hill Mast in the background

Ice

Old Bricks from the  Brickworks

Old Brickworks
http://jakeofwinterhill.blogspot.com/2010/08/winterhill-brickworksmines-part-one.html

Brickwork’s at Hole Bottom

http://www.d.lane.btinternet.co.uk/winterhillthebook.htm

Add caption

Brickwork’s at Hole Bottom
http://www.daveweb.co.uk/whvol3.pdf

 

Old mine tip

Brown Lowe in the distance

we counted over 60 Bell pits in this area near Holden s Colliery

Two lads in the sunset

Holden’s Colliery one of the many Shaft’s found here

deep grass difficult to cross very tiring for my legs

Mine Buildings ? found in the line with Bell Pits  in line with Holders Colliery

sunset on Winter Hill temperature had dropped to -3C at this point.

towards counting hill

wall which marks Dean Ditch

 

Counting Hill

 

Winter mast

standing on the Trig point  for Winter Hill

Rivington Pike in the distance  ,

note from Dad ,the sun set at this point, we went on  to Noon Hill and Catter nab then back to winter Hill , temperature which was low became very low -5 , Jake was tired at this point we made our way to the car which Jake was glad of 😉

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rivington_Pike
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Pennine_Moors
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_Hill,_Lancashire
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horwich

fell running resources
http://www.horwichrmiharriers.co.uk/
http://www.lostockac.co.uk/
http://forum.fellrunner.org.uk/index.php

mountain rescue
http://www.boltonmrt.org.uk/go.php?page=main